These are the people that we grew up with. Eventually, if you hung out in that neighborhood you tried pills or pot, or whatever other crap came into town. Rumors often swept Bronx high schools in the 1950s and 1960s that "the Baldies were coming" to confront the student body, at the generally docile Bronx High School of Science and the more macho, all-male DeWitt Clinton High School. We had like one pistol, and that was for everybody, because every now and then you had a confrontation that would require it. My kid brother ended up dying. You wanna have a game of football? or sometimes wed say, F youse, were gonna come down and kick your asses. When we were drinking, wed scream down at them, Hey, you fuckin black bastards! Wed say something racial, you know? I also had a guy who used to bring me cars for parts. Then Id go into this one restaurant, talk to the guy I knew there, find out if there was any food from breakfast left99 percent of the time there wasand hed pack it up and give it to me. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. What do you think?--rocketrye12 talk/contribs 04:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry, didn't see this discussion - I changed the name to Bronx gangs (1950s-1960s) because that is specifically what is being discussed. It was like one big family. Their members use racial epithets to describe their rivals. - Mgm|(talk) 05:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC), this was in the HelpDesk when I had the article's name changed. This event took place in Washington Heights, I never shot up. When I last saw them, they were street fighters, members of the Fordham Baldies, a gang that made our Little Italy neighborhood unsafe for outsiders. I didnt take no shit from nobody. After I received this email, I received yet another email, this time from Ernests niece who has some stories to share about Ernest that her father shared with her. Then you had all these other little clubs in between. Walk all the way back to where we live, just to get high, then hustle again to get lunch. The Spanish guys were different. They werent really that strong of a weapon. It was 60 years ago today (October 16th, 1960) that Dion announced his split from the Belmonts.Dion, whose last name is DiMucci, had been a member of the Bronx, New York street gang the Fordham Baldies when he joined musical forces with Carlo Mastrangelo, Freddy Milano, and Angelo D'Aleo, who were part of a rival gang, the Imperial Hoods.The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's . During this time, both began to listen to rock and roll and go to dances on Friday Night. Mario was Ernests brother but passed away a couple of days prior to his son emailing me in March 2012. I think he got arrested. You just couldnt believe it. If you want to see somebodys colors, you walk around the back and look at them. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. From the east side, are Their leader is Terror, a 6'6", 400-pound monster of a man. He was able to shed some light on his father Mario and how he felt about Ernests death at the hands of the Red Wings. He had hair just like mussolini in real life, and I'm the princess of canada although I can't offically back that up with paperwork. Theyd hang around. But you can find where it was filmed on this list. That was our block, so we had to protect everybody from other people who would come in and mess up the block. We would hang out in these abandoned buildings that we had electricity running into. Not in my memory! I lived in abandoned buildings with them. formed. Because then you cant be in your own neighborhood carrying a pistol. If you were out to get a guy, you wanted to put him in the hospital. They were like, Oh, its not bad. Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. It's an in-depth look into the Mau Maus and Sand Street Angels gangs from Brooklyn in the 1950s. In fact, we protected people. The Micheal Farmer killing was an incident that happened during the showing of West It took a lot of people out. Hustle to get money for breakfast, eat, get high. We spent a couple nights in jail. They were like, "Who's the. Caleo took another bullet just about the left buttock, near his belt line. You have every type of person in every club. I got stabbed in the head one day with an umbrella. THE 5TH (EAST,TREMONT AND MAPES AVE.) area in the 1970's: THE BLACK SPADES, PEACE MAKERS, HARLEM TURKS, 7 IMMORTALS, P.O.W.E.R. And I tell you, it was a great fuckin scam. We went up there and basically we started hanging out and we became the Railroad Boys. You have it all. I ran up and down the fire escape, taking a lot of the tenants out. Or cite a source, of course. His mind was OK, but hed be talking and hed start laughing cause he couldnt help it. We sold it right on the street. At the same time, Henry remembers . Department Chair: Dr. Ipsita Banerjee (JMH 642) Associate Chair: Dr. Joshua Schrier (JMH 616) Administrator: Adriana Magnotta (JMH 642) Ipsita Banerjee, Ph.D. I always used to buy magazines just to check out the bikes. They said, Youre not supposed to be on our block. The force would cause the rubber band to shoot a .22 bullet. I wasnt hit too often. That was a typical night. And I think using full years instead of century description is better. We rumbled with their guys, and that started a war between the clubs. He was out on the street. When you got caught doing something, they handcuffed you, took you down to the precinct, beat the shit outta ya, then took the information down. The '50s and '60's were a time when loyalty actually meant esteem, consequence, and prestige. Overdosed, stuff like that. One group gathered at PS 171 at 30th Ave and 14th Street, the other Chemistry Faculty. It happened on a fateful late spring day in 1954. There were like 20 of us. You have your murderers, your rapists, your thieves. who descended on Micheal Farmer in the city owned: Highbridge swimming pool, whom they perceived But there were some of us who had everything a kid could have. It would scare people. The year is 1963 but their experiences are universal: falling in love, surviving in school and defending their turf against rivals like the Fordham Baldies, the Del Bombers and the Ducky Boys. And they wouldnt flip colors. The Fordham Baldies were one of the gangs featured in the movie "The Wanderer". However, when they got there, the Fordham Baldies who had been frequenting Orchard Beach on a regular basis, found out the Red Wings were hanging out on Section 17 of the beach. We had a clubhouse. Or somebody would tell me, Listen, I got a van, brand new, and I wanna collect insurance. So he would tell me where he parked it. I got arrested October 1980, came home December 1993. All of us went to school together. So I think a lot of it had to do with that. We never went crazy in our neighborhood, and whoever did, they would hear about it from us the next day. If you remember the scene where they tied a rope to the penises of two guys on a bridge and threw a cinder block over the side down to the a river, that was the Bronx River near French Charlie's baseball field. I could make up to $20. Unknown Bikers were just big in Williamsburg, South 9 Bikers the same. He used to shake when he walked and shit like that. If you made someone look bad, theyd wanna retaliate. "I was a member of that Ducky gang, did some streetsmart growing up with them. When you left your house you had to worry about somebody grabbing you and kicking your ass. It started as a dance club, and as things happened in the clubarguments and fightsit became a gang. Bernard Caleo and Angelo DiVincenzo were seated on the stoop in front of the candy store, unaware of what was about to happen. Me and a few other guys started making a lot of noise, you know, fighting all these other gangs. If somebody says, Oh, let me see your colors, turn around, its not something you do. Most of us came from broken homes, or parents that had two jobs or alcohol and drug problems. I was trying to find my way out, and I went into this room and there was an opium den. We just got along. Anyway, we werent vicious kids. We werent selling, we were just using. Because if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, you took an ass whupping. In fact, all three people who were involved in the murder ended up dying within three years of it. areas at 8 PM. It wasnt like the guy on the corner was a doctor, the one across the street was a lawyer. I knew so many people that everybody would open their doors for me. I was a heroin addict from the age of maybe 13 to 17, but not like a falling-down addict. At that time you could buy the Robitussin AC, with codeine. Then he became the President of the Majestics. Sometimes. We were never really into robbing people. We never really had any problem with the Hasidics. Or if he was with his mother, we wouldnt say nothing to him. The RailRoad Boys, East New York/Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. Id get up, go to my friends house at eight in the morning, and knock on his door. They were all afraid of us. You were whacked out of your face. Gang wars were very infrequent and when they did occur hardly ever was there any firearms used. From Spanish Harlem, we moved to the South Bronx. They ran books, they stole, they shylocked money They ran the neighborhood, whatever they did. For everybodyespecially our people but even for strangers, what we called Merigans, like Ameriganswe had respect for all of them. Everybody wants to make a name for themselves, a reputation. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. We had colorsblue sweaters. They yell one word in Yiddish, and everybody comes out the woodwork. Houston Street down to Canal, and Bowery over to Lafayette. We called ourselves the Italian Dukes. It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. The Woodside Chiefs were a Pop Warner, multi-division, football team from 1955 thru 1965. I left it, but recommend changing that line. They said, Why should I buy drugs to sell when I can steal his and sell them? It happened all the time. Take on the world. They wear leather jackets with a skull on the back and "FB" (Fordham Baldies) on the arm. You lived in the neighborhood, you joined a gang. You usually carried a knife, something to protect you. The Duckies got their name because the original guys hung out at the Duck pond in the Bronx Botanical Gardens and shot at the ducks with slingshots, therefore, they eventually called themselves "Duckies". This was 1960 through 1962. Inside, sipping a soda, was Ernest Montuoro. A 25 year-old hanger- Robbing and stealing wasnt a big thing. He wanted to hang out so bad that he let us call him Snowball. We had a buyer for every piecenot even from garages. If it aint from close range, you just have to wait for the pellets to come out later. I used to walk around with a gun every day. Factories close up at night, you break in, get what you want, and sell it. FInally, since when was DeWitt Clinton "docile"??? At school, a high school teacher accidentally sparks a race riot between the Italian gang the Wanderers and the Black gang the Del-Bombers. Lots of guys were fucking up, but all I wanted was to have our club, and for everybody to have bikes and go places together and ride. In the 1960s, among students citywide, truancy increased and socializing gained priority, whereby other high schools often issued diplomas once their requirements were met via Roosevelt's evening and summer . During the day wed just be hanging out, walking the streets of Brooklyn, meeting people, going to parties. You won. On the next block, one block past Bushwick Avenue, was Aberdeen Park. Or you find them in a car, dead. The ones that didnt go in are the ones that died along the way. Mary Hamilton (l. 14). They looked at both of us, and I was a little relieved because I said to myself, well, they really was there, so Im gonna walk. The problem with the Bronx in 1978 was there were real gangs. Nobody would fuck with us. There was a guy called the Baron and a guy called Bob the Queer, and theyd get us whatever we wanted. This guy Georgie Grout, he had a car antenna and he threw it down and this guy must have been, I dunno, 40 feet away? Prostitution was everywhere too. Hispanics and Blacks were just coming into prominence in the late 50's. We went to the same school and we were all young. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. I mean, these girls could fight. In September 1979 or 80, there was a big fire. I remember cars coming by and shooting at the guys, then we would jump in the car and go after them. So we all hang out now, go to parties, things like that. The Red Wings were a well-known and powerful Italian gang situated in East Harlem. I mean, I could have been arrested for date rape a million times. The gangs -- with names such as the Ducky Boys, Del Bombers and Fordham Baldies (who really are bald) -- are racially segregated. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the Bald Eagle and had the Duck's Ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by Fonzie from Happy Days. I would buy it from Italian guys over on Avenue D, but not guys that we actually knew. Third, some more trivia. Before that, date rape was the usual. This guy was always strapped. I wound up doing like 13 years and change in jail. I used to steal a lot from factories. At the end they looked like gladiators. Back in those days, we always had a clubhouse. A lot of the guys started moving out of the neighborhood or going off to Vietnam. He was from the Marcy Projects and he would always come down with a gun. About Us Site Map Contact Us Great American Youth Book Lords Of Kilbourn Book, Greaser Magazine: "Rising Up Angry:" Stone Greaser Grapevine, Debbie Kozlarek/Carolyn Vandermolen Murders, The Teddy Girls Gang - Great Britain 1950s, Mighty Zulu Nation, Universal Zulu Nation Gang history, Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War, SBB Garfield Boys verses Red Hook Tigers article, Brass Knuckle Tales 50's Street Gang Looks Back, Jimmy the Gent Burke Rest in Peace Article, Harlem Red Wings/Northmen Street Gang article. I lived down the block from an armory, and there was a sergeant who would come every morning and buy seven bags of dope. Stripping you means taking your jacket by force. It worked the same way for us when we were in their neighborhood. The last thing we wanted was heat on the block. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. We also used the 'whistle' as an all clear after the cops had given up chasing us around and it was safe to come back out. "When they were shooting the recruiting scene with the Fordham Baldies," Price recalled, "the actors were hanging out on the intersection of the Grand Concourse and Fordham Road right by Alexander's Department Store and Loew's Paradise, this massive Moorish movie palace. There are 41 of them, and each member is a serious brawler. This was from a roof maybe four stories up. They. FYI, this list is from The College Finder, 2017 edition now available! Set in the Bronx in 1963, the film follows a gang of Italian-American teenagers known as the Wanderers and their ongoing power struggles with rival gangs such as the Baldies and the Wongs. In Williamsburg, where we were, it was the Majestics, the Dukes, the Unknown Bikers, South 9 Bikers, Spanish Kings, Devil Rebels, Dirty Ones, and a bunch more. We meet the Wanderers (Italian), the Del Bombers (Black), the Wongs (Asian Kung Fu), and the Fordham Baldies (oversized bald guys). They That was the big thing. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. Like 12 or 13. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. Our gang was the wiseguys, you know what I mean? Italians were Italians in those days. But when wed fight the Spanish guys, theyd stand there. Many of us had guns, although I never knew of any used in a fight. Someone happened to see two of the guys from the Arabian Knights so we pulled over. Its much harsher than coke. They were going back to the Bronx to pay the Baldies a visit they would never forget. There were six of them and two of us. We did most of our dirty business on the railroad tracks, so we got the name The Railroad Boys. Often it was handled one on? I guess some guys, you know, went with them. Us, the Chaplains, and the Spanish guys all got together and they gave us an ultimatum: Either we made peace or we were gonna start going to jail. So there wasnt one particular reason. Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.32.229.106 (talk) 11:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. They gave you your JD card, which means juvenile delinquent, so that was the label you carried, you know what I mean? It was the fact that they were so cool with us. But yeah, I broke into every factory. Fordham Baldies: As their name suggests, they are all bald, reportedly to prevent their hair from getting in their eyes during a fight. Baldies wounded.Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War. They had a lotta heart. They talked about it, shook hands, and then we were brother clubs. The bullets were just whizzing by my ear. There would be a fight set up, and we told you to be there at seven oclock. We were fighting with everybody. Even some of the names used are real. He was so fuckin mad he didnt pay attention, and the guy went around the corner and when Frankie came after him, he was waiting, and hit him with a two-by-fourwhamright across the head. But you gotta remember one thing: When we were kids, we didnt have to kill anybody. Just passing through. that Farmer was a member of a rival gang called "The Jesters" (It's not known whether or not Farmer was a gang member thougheven to this day). DiVincenzos elbow took another bullet, which passed through his arm. We all got along. We did not have a name but the name Duckie Boys did exist. One summer, we got into it with the Spanish gang. But as things started to change and people started with the drugs, making money off of it, a lot of violence erupted. And then he died. People were sniffing glue, so the bodegas began to sell glue because it was so popular. What they had at that time was called the Youth Squad. Wed look down on them and theyd look up at us. The bond between people who were in gangs was amazing. But I wasnt there, I just wound up getting accused of it. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. Indeed, I started this at someone else's suggestion, with the understanding that s/he would pick up from there. They were called the Flaming Satans. But that didnt last too long once they got used to it. Its like a family, or the police department, or the priesthood. I personally didnt believe in jumping people. It was just a lucky shot and it went right through this guys arm. Even the cops told my mother one time they knew I didnt have nothing to do with it. Their turf was around Jefferson Park, 116th Avenue and Pleasant Ave. We ran out of a restaurant without paying one time, ran down into this building, and they had like catacombs. One of our guys got stabbed 20 times by the Flaming Satans. The Fordham Rams are the varsity sports teams for Fordham University.Their colors are maroon and white. We were like, Nah, dont fuck with them. The Majestics started in the early 70s. We used to look up to the Hells Angels back then. When I lived in the Bronx, prior to 1953 - there was a gang called the Fordham Daggers. It was two carloads of the fellas, just headed toward the block, coming from Greenpoint. Little by little the white gang broke up. Lost Boys of the Bronx: An Oral History of the Ducky Boys By James Hannon. The book is 6x9 and has 370 pages! He got hit in the head with a two-by-four, and it numbed him. It made more money. To Manhattan, then back across the bridge, and once we got to Brooklyn they would just split off to their side and wed keep driving to our side, like it was nothing. Thats how I used to get my money. I was too young to know much about them, except that everyone was afraid of them. We didnt shake nobody down or hurt nobody. They were a very big club. They were with them most of the day. We went to the roof above this nightclub and when they started coming out, we just rained bottles and bricks down on their heads. Gone is the cluttered window offerings of the candy store. (2) Police busted up a rumble between two (South) Bronx gangs. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. Premieres in 64 minutes February 20 at 4:30 PM BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Dusty Vision TV - DVTV 36.5K subscribers Subscribe 0 1 waiting Premieres Feb 20, 2023 Dusty Vision TV on. Not embarrassed to say I was a member and yes, they were very real. He couldnt show up to collect his rent. Rivals: Allerton Avenue gang, Parkside gang, and the Wanderers gang. I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. One of us would move out of a place, and ten families would move in. On that day the Baldies happened to be in Section 11 and when someone asked for help, they proceeded to Section 17 to inform the Red Wings that this was their area. Unless this was a separate incident, the gang was not the Redwings, but the Sinners. I was 12 or 13. The Brooklyn clubs were OK, but the clubs from the Bronx and Queensthe Savage Skulls, the Nomadsthey could cause some problems. We got your neighborhood. And wed turn around and say, Yeah, yeah, you got so much. Then wed be getting high all night till the sun came up, going to the beach, listening to music. This was not the end of the Red Wings gang, however. In that neighborhood, if you werent in a gang, you just went to school and you were fine, but if you were in a gang your chances of survival were 50/50. BRONX, UPTOWN SPADES,HARLEM TURKETTES, SATAN ANGELS, SAVAGE SKULLS, ROYAL JAVILINS, GESTAPO CREW, THE UNIVERSAL ZULU NATION, and THE REAPERS 1ST DIV/MAIN DIV/ AND Juniors. They loved us, you know, because they were fags and they loved young kids. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. The resulting group took their name from the Bronx's Belmont Avenue. I was always aware. That was all tongue in cheek. 42nd Street was like a neutral area, unless you ran into clubs from different boroughs. We had a gang that started in high school. There was one Irish kid, I think, and one black kid. We were trying to imitate them. Wed drink Night Train. But heres the thing: I was never a member of that gang. "Gang Slang" By PHILIP BENJAMIN New York Times (1857-Current file); Oct 20, 1957; pg. Sweater by United Bamboo, jeans by Levis. We had fun. So the guys said, If you dont do it, were gonna strip you. And thats where the war began. We went to Seward Park High School, and it was mostly Jews. We protected women. Not many fights broke out there. Wrong place, wrong time. Their gang was the Comanchero Chaplains. Once again, I wanted to go out with someone who was in that gang. There were opium dens down in Chinatown. Wed be going across the Williamsburg Bridge, shooting at them, them shooting at us. By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the bald eagle and had the duck's ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by . Me and him got along because there was no competition and we really loved each other. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. Eventually everybody said, Were not going to dance no more. We were always armed. That was when the Bronx was burning. After a while, if he called the police, then we would be angry at him. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. We went to Our Lady of Lourdes Grammar School on Aberdeen Street. So they kept the neighborhood. They werent allowed to date outside girls. We were just crooks, you know what I mean? If you drank that, it was like forget about it. They were on the highway, and the guy said something out the window to his girl, and they went back and forth, then finally pulled off the highway up by Bryant Park. I never let anybody get close to me or walk behind me. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. Yeah, it was nice. My childrens fatherwe had five children togetherhe and I slept in abandoned cars and buildings, what we called clubhouses. I stayed in there for what seemed like three hours, but it was probably 15 minutes. We were trying to hide, actually, because the NYPD Youth Squad was always down here, asking us questions like who was who, and who was our leader. This was way before anybody was selling drugs. Like if we were walking down the street and we saw one of the Spanish guys with his girlfriend, we wouldnt beat him up. 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