without a magazine and 26.28 oz. All Glock 9mm should be 19s. For those who want to carry a 45acp that's just as easy to concealed, then the Glock 30S is something you might compare.ThebGlock 30S is virtually the same physical size as the Glock 19 but is chambered in the 45acp instead of 9mm. The Glock 19 9mm pistol is one of the most popular concealed carry pistols available. If you dont like the cartridge and prefer 9mm, fine, by all means stick to what works for you, but people seem to always think .45 = full size 1911. The 30S is my EDC because the slide is thinner but I like them both obviously. The GLOCK 30 Gen4 in the 45 Auto offers excellent out-of-the-box precision paired with the ballistic quality of this caliber. As the Brits would say, it was six of one, half a dozen of the other. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Except that isnt the extent of it. Tom. They dont kick like Walthers, Bersa, et al. It has an ergonomic design and enough substance for easy handling, even for inexperienced shooters. In 2005 I shot 32,000 practice rounds, and 25% of that was almost as fast as I could pull the trigger. Not much room for anything else in board shorts and sandals when walking around a beach town. Yes, the test showed that you can control both guns equally well. That way you are still practicing with the same gun. I prefer to practice as I play. Here is the listing of US special operations groups and their handguns that I know of: Kimber ICQB (.45 ACP) USMC MARSOC "Robert do me a favor," he said. (and you better have some documentation to prove it). Not sued. Walther Pdp Compact Od Green / Burnt Bronze Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 M Elite 10Mm 4.5" 16Rd Optic Ready Pistol Springfield 1911 Prodigy 9Mm, 5" Barrel, Fo Front, We find the dealer that offers you the most money. As a GLOCK owner, we want to make sure you have all the tools to protect your GLOCK pistol, and get the most out of it. Ill say right now this is a bit disingenuous. Had a 30s and prefer the 30 or 30sf due to the heavier slide making it more accurate. Follow him on Facebook,Twitter, YouTube, & Instagram. I actually find the recoil of .45ACP more pleasant than the 9 mm or the muzzle flash of the .357. The icing on the cake is that I dont have to comply with an ill-conceived magazine capacity limit at home. I can group a lot better with my GLOCK 17 than I can with the ranges sample GLOCK 21. I suppose I'm thinking "better to shoot pairs and conserve ammo slightly." They just can. Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto System Safe Action Mag. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If this makes sense to you, please leave the room. Since you're a lefty, try releasing the magazine using your trigger finger, then generation means nothing. So his hit ratio was actually better with the .45 (8/9) than with the 9mm (8/10). There are plenty of small guns chamber in .45ACP that are the same size as 9mm guns. Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. It looks like Robert unloaded ten shots from the 9mm but only nine shots from the .45. Good question. The weapon measures 7.36 inches long and has a 4.01 inch barrel. Model are like shooting .22s. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. Having both the G30 and G19, I can tell you without any hesitation that I can hit more accurately with greater speed with the G19. If I were limited by foolish laws, such as you are, then Id carry a .45 as well. The first and possibly second shots are the ones that will count most, and in this regard, one should care enough to send the very best available option downrange. For MA residents, every town is different. In terms of accuracy, there was nothing in it. If you are limited to 10 round capacity, the 45 is a better choice. O OleManDan Registered Joined Jan 31, 2014 That size advantage comes with less capacity to carry ammunition. Just picked up a new 30S yesterday and shot it today for the first time, 79 rounds no malfunctions. 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Maybe not quite 9mm soft, but almost. As the rabbi noted, some towns are almost shall issue. Others issue, but with restrictions. This is the first one that uploaded and the others are on the way. The difference with the 9rd mag is incredible. I have the G30 Gen 4. As I must shoot one handed they, for me, are the perfect carry piece. MEU(SOC) pistol (a modified 1911) (.45 ACP) MEU(SOC) I no longer shoot competitively, but the knowledge and learning methods are still intact. Just about the only difference between MA and FL is that MA has a good system for checking mental hospital records. I dont have a stopwatch so I couldnt time the sequences. I've had my 30S for a while now. Then I decided I wanted a .45. I was lucky enough to find a pre-ban 13 rounder for my G23 that didnt cost an arm and a leg. This compact frame is extremely versatile, because it has a great combination of compact size and decent magazine capacity. More practice time (assuming youre practicing the right things, of course,) means better shot placement. So you equate firearm caliber with penis size. 770 fps and 208 ft/lbs of energy . JavaScript is disabled. Only difference was the G30SF is a tad shorter by about 1/4 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns. HEIGHT: 122 mm/4.80 in. Prosecuted. I think the careless design and introduction of the m-16 in Vietnam is a testament to how America introduces products (its flawed/ not ready for use, but I can influence someone to push my idea through). That cartridge became the .45ACP, (Automatic Colt Pistol). Same for my Army training experience. 15 rounds just sounds attractive, but there is a big controlability deference between all Glock 9mm pistols. I can own a 4th gen glock but really cant WTH. In my defense (so to speak), I havent been to the range in well over a week. If you properly train and place your shots where they need to go (the A zone, upper chest or center of head), the only person getting killed is the assailant. The Glock 19 has a slighter larger magazine capacity than the Glock 23. Shooting the 9mm G19, I hollowed-out a 6.5 group. Whoa. It is equally annoying to hear people emphasize slower when talking about the speed of a 45acp. He went all empirical on me. Also most major citys police SWAT Teams and the FBI HRT also use a .45ACP. Cheaper ammo = more practice time. Though they are all semi-automatic pistols, share a number of features (like their "Safe Action" safety system), and parts are interchangeable between certain Glock models, there is sometimes a significant difference between Glock pistols. Like what you see here? Not .45 nor 9mm O:(. All the rest were to keep the bad-guys head(s) down while you got back behind cover. An average attacker at 21, with a knife, can stab you before you draw your weapon. Eddie needs to calm down. It's only roughly 3cm taller than the G26 (eyeing it not actually measured). After perhaps tens of thousands of injuries and deaths, of soldiers with fouled, non-functioning weapons, did anyone see the light and correct those problems. What oh what could it be? It weighs 625g (22 oz) when unloaded. Glock 19: Caliber: 9x19mm Parabellum (9mm Luger) Magazine Capacity: 15 Length: 7.36 inches Width: 1.18 inches Height: 4.99 inches Barrel Length: 4.01 inches Barrel Height: 1.26 inches Weight (No Mag): 21 ounces Weight (Loaded): 29.6 ounces Sight Radius: 6.02 inches Trigger Pull Weight: 5.5 pounds Trigger Distance: 2.80 inches Twist: 1 in 9.84 inches Glock 19X (G19X) Crossover handgun featuring a compact slide with a full sized frame, built with no finger grooves, Glock Marksman Barrel, ambidextrous slide stop, and comes in coyote color. i prefer my gen4 g23, but i can see how some would prefer the gen3-even with small hands. And the light was bad. Of course, my back-up mags are only 10. Glock 30 vs. Glock 19 & Glock 26.. A Practical Comparison. If it is good enough for a police department, you know you can rely on it when you need it. When was the last time that there was a legal DGU with collateral damage and the shooter was prosecuted? The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory. Ardak Kumerian, Admiral Commanding Red Fleet My results were NOT the same as that at all. The Glock 19 9mm pistol is one of the most popular concealed carry pistols available. It is still well documented and respected that Where is the accompanying boob pic? Colt was working on a semi-auto pistol / cartridge for U.S. Military trials in .41 caliber at that time. Note: I don't carry mine but if I did, the 30s would be my choice. If I am more than 7 yards from my principal, I need to be shot. I am decently impressed by both the speed and control on the G30. You are crazy. It has just the right balance of barrel length, mag capacity, and overall gun size. I dont want to drop another 550 on a 40 cal piece Plus, the 9mm ammo is priced to shoot. :-O. It is also designed to not over penetrate yet it expands once it has entered the target ever through 2 of clothing. GLOCK 43 I think the older readers on the forum will take all this caliber stuff with a grain of salt. Awesome! After a solid 5 min of this particular nonsense, I quietly and calmly replied with: I feel the size of my penis is entirely adequate and therefore have no problem defending myself with a .38. The tacticool gentleman proceeded to flip the fudge out, and pitched such a hissy fit, he was tossed off the range before he up and shot someone. I missed the paper with BOTH guns two times out of ten. That would be the Sig Sauer P226 mk25. Tossing out a choice between three comparable pistols (in terms of size, capacity etc). The Gen4 design of this small easy-to-shoot package combines a shorter trigger reach with a great magazine capacity. get the most out of your GLOCK pistol. Thats right all you bad a_ _es! A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. By shooting slowly you get better at hitting what you aim at so as to instinctively shoot fast by just shooting at your normal slow pace faster, if that makes sense. I got tired of waiting for the Gen4 30s and settled for a Gen3. Ive been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. The 9mm is such a terrible round, that even military and police special operations forces use 9mms as side arms (and 45s in addition) and sub machine guns. Just wanted to add my experience with the Glock 30. Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. So Im not surprised by the outcome of the experiment in this article. RFK was taken out by a .22 and Reagan almost lost his life to a .22 round. Irresponsble Gun Owner of the Day: Andrew Seals, Houston: Four Armed Robbers Attempt Gas Station Heist, An Armed Customer Shoots Three, The New Henry Big Boy Revolvers at NRA Show 2023 [VIDEO], Vudoo Gun Works Unveils the New Priest Double Stack 1911. Why dont you just go ahead and carry 4 rounds in your magazine? Pistols that do not meet the AGs phony safety regulations are legal to own, possess or transfer between owners, but cannot be sold by or transferred through FFLs. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. Even then a 2 shot derringer is better than nothing. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? To me, in Texas, Im more interested in concealability in the hot summer weather. Carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal? Go figure. I haven't shot either pistol and I am interested to hear the opinions of those of you that have. Being a responsible gun owner means proper training and to regular practice. Even if you're facing a mob of, say, five to six people intent on disemboweling you . Heres what you do . They may not have, I dont keep up with anything SEAL since 90% of what you will find is made up info from SEAL wannabes. My usual CCW weapon. Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 Gen4 Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? The longer you take to stop the attack, the more time the attacker has to hurt you. I am going to buy a Glock 30 or 30s in the coming weeks. The regs are consumer protection regulations. Still, even with my large hands my pinky has a good place to rest and shooting is a pleasure! And I havent had many volunteers to stand at the business end of a 9mm or .40 cal. 10+1 rounds of DoubleTap 10mm. If the gun or mag in question is grandfathered, the owner can own it, use it or sell it, and it can be handled by an FFL. g19 all day . GLOCK 21. The P30 comes in other trigger options, not just DA/SA. This is especially true for handguns from different generations or those chambered in different calibers. ., Shoot both guns as fast as you can. Theres an exception for LEO sales, of course. The G30 is also in a category of its own by being the most unique Glock; it is like a hybrid of a baby Glock and medium sized (G19/ 23), while it is definatley a medium size, with a tad more gurth, but has a baby Glock grip design. of energy. The G30 is way more manageable. Subcompact models are even smaller and are designed specifically for concealed carry. Its a real crapshoot. As for chooing .45 ACP over 9mm, I know which gun id rather have if a genie told me id need a pistol at some undetermined point in the future. The loaded weight of the 30s is 3 oz. I subscribe to the adage of putting as much hurt on the attacker as fast as you can. With that post,I declare the 2012 Olympic Caliber Debate Games Open! Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Switching to 147gr 9mm (slower bullet, more dwell time) will likely provide more impact on a selected target. Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed.. Granted the m-16 family of rifles have undergone reliability overhauls year after year since its introduction (as well as a day late and a dollar short), but this one example doesnt leave me very trusting to why things are introduced within the U.S. Anyways, the 9mm works and works well as I am sure it has had the necessary testing. I havent shot a .45 in almost 25 years but when the USMC switched to 9mm I was much pleased by the improved accuracy. Edit: Looks like they use both best I can tell. The 9mm parabellum is a high pressure round. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The slimmer slide appeals to me. I'm thinking I want to go with a 10mm Glock and am trying to decide between the 20 and 29. I'm thinking about getting a sidearm for hunting in bear country. Gen 4 Glocks have interchangeable backstraps to better fit the hand of the shooter, an enlarged and reversible magazine catch, a dual recoil spring to reduce felt recoil, and a rough textured frame to improve grip traction (bottom right). How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. I definitely can shoot a G36 (6+1) .45 with +P faster (at the same accuracy) than a Kahr 9. The state handles non residents. Note: all Glock handguns chambered in .45 ACP feature octagonal polygonal rifling in order to obtain a better gas seal with a larger bore. Glock 19 (9mm) The Glock 19 is remarkably similar to the G17, but on a slightly smaller scale. The Glock 19 comes with two 15-round stock mags while the Glock 23 comes with two 13-round stock mags. This might be misplaced appreciation because our M1911s were in very humble shape. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Now go to jail. The G30 weighs 23.81 oz. For example, theres a four-hour class and no shooting test. WIDTH: 32.50 mm/1.27 in. This video illustrates the dangers of the spray and pray philosophy. And the rest of you as you were. Built for the Army Modular Handgun System competition. Again, YMMV. Im sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast. satisfying. A .38 caliber isnt a decisive fight stopper, and often requires multiple center mass hits to affect the attacker. As for sub-machine guns, grouping them in with handguns is comparing apples to oranges. If operated within design parameters, it works well. Call it a draw. This is the equivalent of the Glock 17, in a more compact form. It is my EDC. The Glock 17 and the Glock 19 are very nearly identical, with the Glock 17 having a barrel about 1/2 inch longer and a grip about 1/2 inch longer than the Glock 19. Its all about how well you are able to control the muzzle rise. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS: 150 mm/5.91 in. I've owned a G30 for at least 10 yrs. But if I lived up north where layers of clothing are reasonable all year round Id be more interested in a larger caliber. I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 19 or a Glock 30, in Gen4. 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