Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Please search through our online catalog today and find your own piece of military or maritime history. There is a drawing and info for each of 37 U.S. flare and signal guns, ranging from Civil War Army and Navy models up to late 20th century commercial products. This would probably clean up with some steel wool and WD-40. hello: were the 1870 snider cavalry carbines rare with checkered stock and engraved sidelock? Poor Sir Thomas Crapper How exemplary work lives on in peoples mind(shaped by language): The origins of the word crap is not entirely known, but it is known that it was commonly used in England to refer to rubbish or chaff, but fell out of use in the 16th century, long before Thomas Crapper and his company came along. Original Items: Only one set available. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. William Schermuly was born in 1857 going to sea on HMS Warspite and a succession of other ships after. A team of volunteer surf men sometimes had only hours to arrive on scene, often during nightmarish weather conditions, and perform a sea rescue from the beach. WW1 Imperial German Army Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. D 1461 - D 1461 Still, the unit was compact, easy to set up, and is said to have a range of approximately 285 meters. For his contributions, most line throwing guns are known as Lyle guns to this day. Furthermore, firing was often done into the winds, which shortened the devices effective range and made precise aiming more difficult still. Suggest it be merged in to Frank Zappa with a link from here?Billlion (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Given the generic nature of the page subject, is it appropriate to highlight this one historical incident so prominently? Overall, the pistol is in very good condition. This slow introduction into commercial and military markets earned much confidence in the rockets, and by 1922, their use was prolific. In WWI the Canadian Army used them for projecting telegraph cables from trench to trench whilst under fire and a rocket that fired a grappling hook to enable barbed wire entanglements to be quietly pulled away also found some use. In fact, it worked so well that Schermulys grandson was often used in its firing demonstrations at only 8-years old. After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. It was reported that the boat exploded and sunked from this act. This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. Gvjschermuly@gmail.com thanks. WW1 Schermulys Trench Flare Pistol. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. This period of numerous rejections and disinterest, he dubbed, his heartbreak years. Eventually, early adopters began to step forward. Mechanically good, and in original flint, not a reconversion. Lot includes the following Description: Serial #10950, 25mm, 5 1/2 barrel with a very good bore that is dark and frosted for the last 3 inches near the bell-mouth muzzle. here for telephone contact information. Free exhibitions held in venues, which do not charge an entry fee. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Brass frame. You can contact the seller by clicking on the seller's nickname. Add to Compare. 1 1/2 Flare pistol with proofed 12g adaptor used for firing bird scaring . holders in your area, we may be able to help you find one willing to handle transfers. Despite being given a stiff ignoring by the Admiralty, by 1922 the Schermuly Line Throwing device was in widespread use in the shipping industry with the first sales coming in 1912. directly to you, as long as there are no state or local restrictions (California??). This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. Co. Tipp City, O. is ink stamped on the thin aluminum case of the flare signal The short aluminum cartridge case headstamp identifies the maker and patent info along with date of May 1945,and also stamped on the flare case bodynear the mouth. After leaving the sea in 1880, he of course had a soft spot for the men who still earned their living there and often risked their lives. They have the correct wartime period British proofs and Schermuly Patents 179997. Calibre: 1.5, Webley Schermuly Riot Gun, launcher, grenade, moving barrel. It was reborn many times with the demands of the Second World War. This is a very rare example of an Imperial Japanese Navy double barrelled 28mm Flare/ Signal pistol.. 745. Dates run from about 1952 to about 1964, various makers and marking styles. OUT OF STOCK- OUT OF PRINT- LOOK ON USED BOOK LISTS- WORTH THE SEARCH! His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. Usually comprised entirely of volunteers, the crews, while brave, often lacked training or expertise with equipment such as the Lyle gun. $40.00 (View Picture). (pre-1899) Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > . A line firing gun, as opposed to a rocket, would take care of many of his issues: it fired instantaneously and made aiming easier, its projectiles would be less effected by wind and less prone to water damage. But how to achieve all this? My old man has a couple of the line throwing guns too beauties. 21712 FLARE GUNS & SIGNAL PISTOLS: THEIR USE, DESCRIPTION AND ACCESSORIES - By Robert M. Gaynor, 178 pages 8.5 x 11 soft covers. By 1887 he was developing ideas for ship-based rescue lines, and by 1897 he was exhibiting his Schermuly life saving rocket at Queen Victorias Diamond Jubilee Exposition and winning the gold medal to boot. 150 pounder Armstrong Gun at West Poin The Snider Bullet 11/5/16, British Schermuly line throwing gun at auction. and make no claims as to fitness for use. In 1929, just 19 days before he died, the Admiralty made it compulsory for all vessels over 500 tons to carry line throwers. on our books page. Firearms with fascinating histories such as this abound in our firearms auctions, and the 2018 June Regional Firearms Auction is no exception. Please feel free to email me. Non-Commercial educational use for the purpose of teaching and instruction, including internal training. For more information on William Schermuly and all other types of line throwing guns, see my article in the Bulletin of the American Society of Arms Collectors at https://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/2015-B111-Line-Throwing-Guns.pdf As to the rest, an iconic fire that destroys a major landmark in a Swiss town and has an enormously well-known song written about it - that's notability. Basement Breech end of the barrel has British Broad Arrow property marking ink stamped, so this was likely used by the Royal Navy or RNLI, probably circa WW2 to 1970s. militaria page, Collectible The flare gun launcher fit the bill. Thompson, C. R. (1946). Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Overall fine to excellent outside with most of the gloss black paint finish remaining. Headquarters. WW2 Type 90 Japanese Naval DOUBLE Barrelled Flare / Signal pistol. A tremendous swimmer, a fighter, and an adventurous spirit, the man did not lack for courage, nor the vocabulary of an old salt, once describing himself as an old blue water windjammer shellback (translation: a sailor who went out into deep ocean on the largest sailing cargo ships and crossed the equator). whole: L: 82.2cms Both pistols have relatively low serial numbers one of which is just 910. Lines were necessarily light to achieve maximum distance, and were often used to establish larger, sturdier lines. Sn 18196: 30 - 18196: 30 It was so successful that in 1938, a new act made it a requirement for all ships over 80 tons or 50 feet in length. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. Also included is the tin case which measures approximately 19" x 7" x 25" which is complete with 4 unopened boxes of 250 1/2 inch line, 4 deactivated rockets, original instruction label and more! Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. Perhaps if someone has a source, an explanation for that term can be added to the article? These have a handle on the top of the barrel to help hold it when firing, not so much for the very limited recoil, but because the gun with rocket inserted is heavy and you want it under good control when on a heaving deck of a ship in distress. Webley Schermuly 12bore Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (1) S/H Shetland Trade Seller 1 1/2 Flare pistol with proofed 12g adaptor used for firing bird scaring cartridges. The rocket has a U shaped wire frame attached to it, hinged to allow it to hang down below the gun before firing. 245 US$306/278 Verey 1 inch Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (6) S/H Buckinghamshire We warrant them to be as described, Schermuly was a family business. FLARE GUNS & LINE THROWING GUNS FOR COLLECTORS: . (Broomhandle). Firearms manufactured Ruger 10-22 DSP SP classic .22LR semi automatic sporting rifle. British WWI 1916 Dated Brass 1 MkIII Trench Flare/Signal Pistol by Cogswell & Harrison London. Despite achieving some success with the apparatus Schermuly wanted further improvements, especially in the ease of use department. From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. To drive the point home of how important this invention was, ships during this time were still dependent on sail or steam for power, and commonly ran aground. A line firing gun, as opposed to a rocket, would take care of many of his issues: it fired instantaneously and made aiming easier, its projectiles would be less effected by wind and less prone to water damage. 450 ONO. 27 mm Flare/Very/signal Pistol. Schermuly selected a pistol sized firing device for its size, slapped a long barrel on it, and used the gases of a pistol-style cartridge (essentially a blank round) to eject the rocket from the barrel, penetrate the water-proof disc at its base, and ignite the propellant of now smaller, steel cased rocket. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. Kite launching rockets deployed emergency radio aerial antennae. 20069. The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. After leaving his career as a seamen in 1880 he set about saving the lives of seamen, he was often quoted as saying; Lost ships can be replaced but lives are gone forever. Have them checked by a competent gunsmith Category Other Guns. Crapper & Co Ltd. I have just modified one external link on Flare gun. The design is based on the WWI Webley MKIII* brass flare pistols of the same period however, this pair have much longer barrel extensions measuring 6.5 inches with the overall barrel length being 9 inches. Caliber / Gauge: 1 Barrel Length: 12" Serial Number: 10821. Furthermore, firing was often done into the winds, which shortened the devices effective range and made precise aiming more difficult still. If you see a https://archive.org/stream/nasa_techdoc_19770026086/19770026086_djvu.txt, https://www.nps.gov/spar/learn/historyculture/david-lyle.htm, Rock Island Auction7819 42 Street WestRock Island, Illinois 61201USA1-309-797-1500, In the history of American arms, three weapons stand out above all the rest: the Kentucky rifle, the Colts revolver, and the Bowie knife, wrote, The sky above the trenches of France was a new frontier as World War 1 opened in 1914, with each side using lumbering, unarmed airplanes for, The Colt Walker revolver was the gun that relaunched Samuel Colts firearms business following the failure of his earlier Patent Arms Manufacturing. cartridge belts, etc on our collectible FLARE GUNS & LINE THROWING GUNS FOR COLLECTORS: The wood grips are made of . Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. Despite his success at the exposition, Schermuly saw virtually no interest in his invention. In 1912, the Royal Mail Steam Packet utilized Schermuly rockets and others would follow. Obviously there was room for improvement, and that was not lost upon William Schermuly a former seaman who was later quite involved in the pioneering of modern rocketry. Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. Twenty-two different shipping lines were using his rockets, and by 1929, the Merchant Shipping Act mandated that Every British ship exceeding five hundred tons when going to sea from any port in the United Kingdom shall be provided with a line-throwing appliance approved by the Board of Trade. Nineteen days later, Schermuly died. I think this just muddies the waters. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). Personal use for non-commercial research and private study and other uses under the UKs exceptions to copyright and those exceptions to copyright in place where the user is located. What is the difference in the "process"? Still, the unit was compact, easy to set up, and is said to have a range of approximately 285 meters. 5636) Return This line thrower uses the RARE SQUARE BUTT . One of those guns that isnt unusual in its appearance, yet performs its task in an unusual manner is the Schermuly Line Throwing gun. The compact system could project a half inch line up to three quarters of a mile away. Digital files of films and sound recordings are available at cost depending on intended use. Information- click here. ANTIQUE- no FFL needed. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. Then again, for something designed to withstand being . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This is the blog archive from Think Defence, maintained here for reference purposes. IWM collections. This is an excellent condition British WW1 era brass Trench flare pistol. 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Both pistols are currently live having only just been discovered. Robert Shackleton outfitted one on the Endurance, and other famous explorers gave their glowing endorsements. your connection to Schermuly as they have been wondering for years about their stock control position . Besides the guns Gaynor covers 29 holster or carrying kits, and 19 different types of cartridges, along with a 10 page table with more detailed info on cartridges. To meet demand Schermuly brought his three grown sons into the business. 4/7/2023, Collectors This example shows the less common fluid filled clinometer level. Excellent bore. Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol By \'Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. If you don't know of any FFL Make Kayaba Kogyo Com. The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. (LogOut/ WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. By 1926, the Schermuly Pistol Rocket Appartus, Ltd. took form, and the family business could now produce their own device to their own satisfaction. Gunbroker has an interesting flare gun/line thrower for auction. The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus (SPRA) was born and immediately began outperforming the competition, often doubling or tripling the distance of other ship-to-shore systems and demonstrating numerous advantages of old shore-to-ship systems such as the Lyle gun. The PAC Rocket used a 6 pound rocket motor to propel a steel line held aloft by a parachute to protect airfields and ships against dive bombers. It has a 9" Barrel with octagonal breech An excellent British WW1 brass 1" Mk. Compact Distress Signal Order code: 9556660 The lightweight, Pains Wessex Compact Distress Signal pack contains 3 red aerial flare cartridges and a penjector firing mechanism, all enclosed in a tough, water-resistant case. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. There are also stories of attaching a grappling hook of sorts to it and firing it over barbed wire so that it could be more easily pulled away. This WWII line throwing gun is also rare, as most known variations have the original flaregun round butt on the frame. See photo for details. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.194.127.112 (talk contribs) . Q&A The Schermuly Pistol Rocket, widely used rocket apparatus of British make, was successfully exhibited last week at Homebush Bay before a large and representative gathering of Sydney's shipping circle. By downloading or embedding any image, you agree to the terms and conditions of the IWM Non Commercial Licence, including your use of the attribution statement specified by IWM. You can embed or download low-resolution images free of charge for private and non-commercial use under the IWM Non-Commercial Licence. This rope could then be fired over the heads of distressed sailors in the water for rescue purposes, or fired at another ship, to attach bigger lines to be hauled back to the originating ship. His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. Notice- Because of bureaucratic requirements, we cannot sell cartridge firearms Usually comprised entirely of volunteers, the crews, while brave, often lacked training or expertise with equipment such as the Lyle gun. 3 photos new British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott 'No2-MkI' Flare/Signal Pistol. 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