We have moved! Serious inquiries only. Copyright 2023 Backcountry Pilot. We had a passenger. Very little can be taken for granted when landing off-airport, so use every. Replacement wingtips are the same design as the Horton STOL-Craft conversion tips, except the tips are designed to fit Cessna's leading edge. of head-wind. A STOL kit will lower top and cruising speeds slightly; my 182 was a 1962 which was before Cessna adapted the modified drooped leading edge (which came from a STOL kit). Siebel, now deceased, advertised that his kit would increase the cruise speed of 1962 through 1982 airplanes from 12 to 18 knots, depending on the year model. Not readily visible in a complete conversion, but very important are the control surface seals, also known as gap seals. The VG kit is compatible with the leading edge cuff kits (Sportsman, Horton, Robertson, etc). Reduced water landing impact loads by 8%; Increased takeoff performance by as much as 30%; Increased lateral stability in all phases of flight; Increase service ceiling by almost 1,000 feet (7% more wing area); Increase cruise speed 2% at cruise settings of 65% and 75%; Increased flight safety margin and stability at low speed; STC approved in combination with other STOL kit modifications on all series of Cessna 180, 182 and 185 on wheels, skis or floats. FAA STC approved on all C-180 ,182,185 models. It took me about 60 hrs. Rod, I can't speak for a "which is better" but both the Sportsman and Horton STOL-equipped 172s I've flown do show marked improvement in slow-speed control. STOL KIT DESCRIPTION. As you recall from your flight training days, modern general aviation aircraft are designed in such a manner that the stall starts at the inboard portion of the wing and then moves outwards as the angle of attack is increased. Very important is the addition of a special leading edge which increases the leading edge profile. Hundreds of pilots who fly through small and metropolitan airports every day are using R/STOLs enhanced performance to gain extra time, avoid delays, reduce aircraft wear and tear and cut operating costs. lakes. They do make a difference, but nothing replaces horsepower to shorten Takeoff run and increase climb rate. p.p.s This aircraft is also equipped with 180 horses' of pure Lycoming, so if the STOL performance I observed was not a fluke, she's going to be one bad-ass bird for my Alaska bush flying! Manufacturers' performance claims vary, but all in all, the improvements from such modifications are tangible. Login or Sign Up; 0; Wishlist. Installation costs about equal the parts prices. Our kit for the Cessna 180, 182 and 185 has a specially engineered "Wing Reinforcement", and when attached along the main spar this modification increases the overall strength of the wing and gives you a dramatic gross weight increase. We are NOT liable for any damage to your aircraft or injury incurred as a result of following our tips, advice or instructions. Even with power off you retain confident control with reduced risk of stalling. Thanks all, looking forward to hearing some real experience. Unless the A/C also has a Robertson installed. Engine only 50 hours SMOH by One Stop Aviation, Lycoming O-360-A3A. The most popular STOL kit with 180/185 forum participants is the Sportsman wing cuff mod. Actual pictures of WING-X STOL-equipped aircraft, wing testing. For the 210G through R, the P210R, and the T210R, the tanks add 33 gallons and about 26 inches to the wingspan. 172 Issue 3 Page 1 of 15 2020.10.22 Air Research Technology Inc. 3440 McCarthy St. Montreal, Quebec Canada H4K 2P5 Tel. Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 0 guests. I love how a guy asks about some STOL mods on a fairly affordable airplane and the recommendations flood in to spend about $60K and hang a 180hp motor on it. The designs and construction methods of general aviation airplanes really are fairly efficient considering the demand that airframes be light, strong, durable, and easy to maintain. This is our 1969 Cessna 172K with a full Horton STOL kit. The combination of these results will give you the possibility of touching down at a fraction of the normal speed, the chances of personal injury and aircraft damage is greatly reduced. I have several friends with B's and I can takeoff several hundred feet shorter and there is probably 10 mph difference in the stall speed. Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe, Classic Airliners Horton makes no outlandish performance claims and admits that the numbers it publishes were obtained under ideal test conditions. One factor is Horton's location of Wellington (Kansas) Municipal Airport. In search of a Cessna 172 or 182. 38 mph no flaps is . Have you modified your aircraft? Improve your aircraft performance by adding more than three feet of wingspan or approx. * The Canadian STC is accepted in most countries exept the USA , please check with your local aviation authority, we expect FAA approval in the near future. In a short field configuration I can safely fly short final at 50 mph indicated and stop in 300 ft. The aileron seals stop the flow of air from the high-pressure area on the underside of the wing to the low-pressure area on top of the wing via the gap between the trailing edge of the wing and leading edge of the aileron. Kits can be and often are shipped out for installation. 172, 172A THRU 172L 175, 175A THRU 175C, P175D R172E THRU R172J 180, 180A THRU 180N . It will be a nice aircraft. when combined with additional modifications. . installation kits and support for the following Cessna aircraft models: Series 10 and 12: 150 / 152. It's the same friendly, informative place for all things Cessna 172, now with a larger group of pilots and state-of-the-art forum software. Such a dream to fly! Photo is just for attention. Email us at: Owners of R/STOL-equipped aircraft enjoy the increased flexibility it affords - whether on short runways or international airports. A STOL kit on a Cessna 172 helps deter stalling and decreases takeoff and rollout runs. Wing Foil Modification I have a 54 B model with the Horton STOL kit. All C-180 and C-182 owners will benefit with a GTOW of 2,950 lbs. Although we have used the Just seeing if anyone is interested in participating a Cessna 172 partnership at Murray Field in Eureka. micro VGs? USER_MINI_PROFILE. cleaning out the hanger. Views: 135. Three companies sell drag-reduction kits. Flint Aero, Incorporated, 1935 North Marshall Avenue, El Cajon, California 92020, 619/448-1551. But does the kit hamper the plane's speed, climb rate, or ceiling? Installation and performance questions answered. Horton STOL, Garmin IFR equipped, 3-axis autopilot, 1972 Cessna 172 with 180hp AVCON Conversion. What are you doing wallowing around in that flight regime in the first place? I also had a fair amount of time on a newer 182 (a CAP plane) that had the drooped leading edge. Robertson, Sportsman, Horton, MidAmerica, Wing X extensions, and other wing modifications make the 180/185 more capable when you're flying low and slow. That's probably why no one brought them up. The Sportsman kits are $400 more but take the same time for installation. Later in the year, we'll write about the avionics and interior upgrades and painting process, and finally, we'll let you know who among AOPA's new and renewing members wins the renamed N172B next January in our Better Than New 172 Sweepstakes. We eventually chose the Horton STOL-Craft kit for a variety of reasons. When you start talking STOL to insurance companies, they start to get nervous as to what you might be doing with it and will raise your rates accordingly. The transfer of auxiliary fuel can be initiated when the mains are about half-empty; transfer time is 20 to 30 minutes. This is our 1969 Cessna 172K with a full Horton STOL kit. I have installed several Sportsman kits and they don't use a stall fence. (At the peak of production in 1966, Cessna . My 170A has both the HORTON STOL kit and VGs. He thought there was enough difference to make that swap worth his time. Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries, Airport Overviews approved on all series and in all configurations. Today I am trying out a Horton STOL kit on a Cessna 150. "Wip-Tips" by Wipaire are FAA STC approved on all C-206 models. The slow landing performance is not your main concern but safety is. The cuff increases the radius and camber of the wing leading edge, increasing maximum lift and reducing drag. The larger engine obviously improves cruise and climb performance. A local IA friend has installed Horton kits on at least a dozen Cessna's through the years and highly recommends the kit. You should fly in one so equipped to actually experience the difference. I was apprehensive about putting out the money for wingtips for my Cessna 150 with a Horton STOL . I don't recall seeing stall fences on top. It was a great combo. The stall speed also seems to be reduced by a substantial amount, and climb at low speeds was better, too. Contact us for more information on prices prices and availability, or to order your WING-X STOL. My A&P bought a C-180 with a Horton already installed, drilled it out and installed the Sportsman kit. Induced drag is further reduced since the HORTON STOL-CRAFT tips reduce wing tip vortex strength. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. So a stock 172-D has a 145 hp Continental. At the CPA Rigging class my 172 was used for the early model sample plane. The auxiliary fuel tanks are a less obvious airframe modification. I have the full STOL kit on my 1956 172. . This is our 1969 Cessna 172K with a full Horton STOL kit. Aviation Tools & Pilot Supplies: Series 12 / 13 / 15 and 79: 206 / 207 / T207. Canadian STC approved * for all Cessna 170 , 172 , 175 series. that I get on this posting. Attention Cessna 172 Club Members! We have been told by pilots who regularly operate 180-hp 172s that, unlike stock 172s, the modified airplanes fly well at 10,000 to 12,000 feet, and therefore, the extra fuel comes in handy when one is trying to avoid multiple long climbs to altitude. Thanks in advance for any advice, input, etc. I have installed over 20 on 172's and 182's.We always did before and after testing. Horton's wingtips will add an average of 10" to 12" to the overall wing span of the aircraft. It was developed for the C-170 and actually adds lift area. All Cessna models 180, 182 GTOW 2,950 lbs. This year, we opted to also include a Precise Flight Pulselite system. Because our project airplane has been in the paint, interior, and avionics shops since the STOL and engine installations, we can't report much yet on the performance of our airframe mods. The Horton STOL Conversion will give the advantage of taking-off and landing at a slower speed, the ability to get out of grass strips easier, obtain better performance at high altitudes, with better aileron control at low speeds, reduce the tendency to spin and reduce the stall speed. He owns and flies a Beechcraft A36 Bonanza. Horton, Incorporated, Wellington Municipal Airport, Wellington, Kansas 67152; 800/835-2051. I have the full STOL kit on my 1956 172. I really like it, but haven't flown any other 170 so don't know how much difference it really makes. Bela,you said that yours has the Sportsman? Sold as a set of two. Ad id: 802189362076519. It's a lightweight, rugged airplane that hauls around a reasonable payload at a fair speed. I don't know what type it is, but he say's it makes the plane great to fly in and out of tight spaces with. It floated far down the runway when we approached at normal 172 speeds. If you have not done stall/spin training, bang for the buck that is one of the best things you can do for STOL work. Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior, Cargo Aircraft The obvious answer to the runway and slow-speed performance question is a short takeoff and landing (STOL) kit. RE: What Are Negative Factors Of Stol Kits? Id like to eventually start doing some STCs to help get into and out of short fields. approved on wheels, skis, amphibs and straight floats. Is this the motor on the plane? when combined with additional modifications. An option with the kits, and one we took advantage of, are flap well seals. Learn to fly it to it's maximum potential. Other great products Wellington Municipal Airport As someone else mentioned, getting approval for an 8042 prop on a 172 would be tough. Approved on all series. Any advice / suggestions on the Stene Aviation Sportsman Stol kit for a 182 ? Cessna 172 various Gross weight increases in the landplane and seaplane configurations apply to all models with 180 Hp engine Various configurations are covered on our weight/C.G. Locate your regional WING-X STOL distributor. Looking at purchasing a 172D. It's an airplane that performs like a 172 with only two seats up front. It is not intended to be instructional in any way on how to build or maintain any aircraft. I have not ordered them as of yet. Lowered my heavy loaded takeoff ground roll about 1/3rd with 180 hp Lyc. Technical Support In the end, we believe the airframe enhancements, when combined with the larger engine and the many improvements we're installing inside the airplane, will indeed show that it's possible to provide new levels of safety and comfort to the existing fleet. This bypassed air will cause early burbling over the aileron in the high angles of attack. 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