According to all the load data I can find suggests using an overall length that is far to long to seat the bullet down to the cannelure. I bought that, a Model 1 Sales chrome BCG & charging handle, and a set of Lee Pacesetter .300 AAC Blackout dies (because they were the only ones I could find in stock) and proceeded on my adventure. by Ben B. Never had a factory round through it. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Rifles are not always the best choice for home defense weapons, but that is also largely dependent on the environment, location, and other key factors. The lower the grain the faster the round and the harder it hits. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Once again, Hornady asserts their alpha dominance in the ammunition field. Hi All! That isnt to say you have to buy a specific type of ammo for everything you want to do with your 300 Blackout rifle. The problem is that the comparisons do not use the same barrel lengths. That last one is somewhat like throwing a brick with much vigor. Fiocchi was founded in 1876 in Italy. Hornady markets the line as the culmination of ballistics expertise with modern technology. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. Thanks for reading. Here in S.C. To hunt coyotes at night you have to use a sub sonic round. Doh! This ammunition is proudly made in the U.S.A. Hunting, Lapua 200-grain SP Mega and Cutting Edge Bullets 230-grain Subsonic Raptor. You can't really go wrong with Hornady. Follow our guide below for a detailed list of the best 300 Blackout ammo on the market today. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. by phils3 Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:11 pm, Post lou romano related to ray romano; home land under 50000 sevier county, tn I am hoping to find out what you think about crimping and if you do then just how much? of Copper Sulfate on hand. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. Seat bullet so that sharpie mark is on the middle of the mag bump. Supersonic or subsonic, suppressed or not, it has never failed to cycle. Ive tested many other rounds through my Red X .300 AAC Blackout upper and some work OK but none as well as the Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets. Along came the .300 AAC Blackout = the answer to my angst of scraping that brass! 16g just happened to give me great groups and no pressure signs so I stuck there. All Rights Reserved. The best ammo will also fire safely and reliably. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. This match-grade ammo is nothing, if not accurate. Shooting off the shelf 125gr bullets the two guns shoot just fine averaging 2050fps and 1960fps repectively. The HP American Gunner line of ammunition includes a series of proven, versatile loads that have proven popular for target shooting, hunting, and self-defense. I am using CMMG 8" barrel. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. by TreeTopFlier Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:13 am, Post 22.5 C under a 115g projo!!!). If they are too large in diameter at the position of the magazine ribs, feeding can also be impacted. I am a lil-gun junkie I use it for 300 blackout , 44 mag , 480 ruger , 458 socom and 50 beowulf . Imagine trying to design a ballistic compensation scope for a cartridge that can use 110 grain projectiles traveling at 2,400 feet per second AND 245 grain projectiles traveling at 950 feet per second. Each bullet is tested for consistency in weight and quality. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); You need to correct: 300 AAC Blackout 220 Grain Sierra MatchKing, 2,350 fps to the proper fps of ~1K or so, otherwise it doesnt make subsonic sense. 200 yards -45.21 They use unique, cutting-edge loading methods to ensure top-class performance and consistency. I think .300blk is great for reloaders and short barreled pistols suppressed. If you have a suppressed AR in 300 Blackout and want to stock up on affordable ammo, this is a great option. FYI . If anyone has a similar load/experience with this setup or end goal, please give me some direction. 300 AAC Blackout 110 Grain Barnes TAC-TX, 2,350 fps .223 Remington 55 grain, 3,100 fps, 100 yards +0.73 +1.57 So far as to supersonics I've been using 150 gr. I forgot to measure before destroying the targets on those! These rounds work perfectly in either modern sporting rifles or bolt action hunting rifles. The reason I don't subscribe to these shenanigans is that you'll still have to fight your way to your rifle and having a seven pound pistol slapping your leg ain't gonna help with that. by 20X11 Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:25 am, Post BEST BULK BUY: Magtech 300AAC Blackout 200gr, 50rds. Like I said, its a thrown brick. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. I'm fairly new to loading 300 BLK. It is designed to work no matter whether your AR features direct impingement, a gas piston, a suppressor, or a variety of other options. Personally I'd call it excellent considering that its an inexpensive upper. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. Its more expensive than .223 / 5.56mm and much harder to find. H110 works extremely well with bullets from 110 to 150 grains. AK on the shelf at every Walmart! When reloading, always obtain your load data directly from the source. grains Primer: Federal Small Rifle Cartridge Overall Length: 2.18 inches Muzzle Velocity: 2,058 fps In supersonic. These will be plinking rounds only. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. For the shooter you cant beat the cost per round of the X39 with all of the Mil surplus ammo that is available. Hodgons website only has the maximum load data with 8.4gr and a COAL of 2.26" for Sierra 220gr HPBT. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Much bang for the buck, especially for plinking loads. The muzzle velocity for these 110-grain bullets is a snappy 2375 fps and the muzzle energy is 1377 foot-pounds. With a sub load, you need to ensure the bullet is stable before you attach your suppressor and you need to do all velocity up without the suppressor attached. 200 yards -4.18 +1.43 I was trying to get a very light crimp and get seated properly too. That much energy gives you the best in downrange stopping power for mid to large game. "rjacobs" quote removed at "rjacobs" request. If you don't mind buying ammo that was not manufactured in the U.S.A., Magtech is a great option at a decent cost. If you look at the standard 55 grain .223 Remington at 3,240 feet per second, that yields 1,281.8 foot-pounds of muzzle energy and 3.16 foot-pounds of recoil energy. I gave away about 2000 rounds of 300 blackout brass. Aguila hails from Morelos, Mexico. 300 AAC Load Test For 150 gr. If you don't mind paying a bit extra for top performing ammunition for your modern sporting rifle, this is an excellent option. It is best to experiment with a few options for each of your intended use cases. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Tinkering is the key word here, as performing a methodical approach to determine the most accurate combinations of loads would take centuries. Do not have to be sub loads . I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. A 55 grain .223 Remington load is shown on the far left for scale. I shoot a lot of those out of my 03-A3 30-06. Manufacturers don't tend to appear more than once in our guides without reason. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Load data for 147gr, Lil Gun, 8" barrel, 300 Blackout. This ammo is available boxes of either 50 or one thousand rounds. You will want to take your ammo to the range to test the accuracy. Another big benefit is how widely available they are. Bullet Puller next. One 16 rifle and a 10.5 pistol both are carbine length gas systems. If you get crafty and learn how to cut down your own brass from .223 Remington cases, you have an infinite supply of cheap brass. Proudly Designed, Manufactured, and Assembled in the U.S.A. Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:03 am, Post Buy some 100 or 125 grain ammo that will move along at up to 2,400 feet per second. This will help you to figure out which features to look for when shopping for ammo. No matter how reliable it is, if shot placement isn't consistent and you can verify that the problem isn't you or your rifle, you are not shooting the best 300 AAC ammo. .30 caliber bullets are available in all weights. Out of my AR 1/8 the 150gr sst 16.0 gr h110 is really accurate and my go to for hogs and deer as a brush gun. In 300 blk I prefer Lil'Gun over H-110 for bullets over 135 grs. Reloadable boxer brass is also in abundance. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. . Ive shot a bunch of 168 grain Sierra MatchKings and its a great plinking / target round. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. You can use anything from 110 to 220 grain with no problem with the .300AAC. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Widow. I managed to get MOA accuracy, and consistent speeds of 1,050fps with 8.5gr., Winchester brass, Remington 7 primers,and base to give length of 1.500". I build the #TTFPowderStand for the Lee Turret Press. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER I was able to chrono my 125 gr 300BLK test loads today, Unfortunately, my hottest load of 21.5 gr of LIL GUN powder behind a Speer 125 gr TNT only gave me a best velocity of 2550 fps. If so did it cycle ? Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Lil Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. I WISH people would LEARN HOW to convey a logical and understandable message. Hornady is one of the top ammunition manufacturers worldwide. Aguila is remarkable for the value for money they offer given their excellent reliability. These rounds give you great performance no matter what use case you subject them to. 09-16-2021, 07:46 PM #2 badguybuster Boolit Buddy Join Date Oct 2013 Location West (By GOD) Virginia Posts 325 Hi . 300 Blackout Reloading Data. Celebrate diversity! She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. I want to use Hornady 150gr BTSP bullets, but cant find any data to support that. Supposed to help reduce Lead Fouling. Things dont like to travel at or close to the speed of sound ! I'm actually working with a wildcat 30 Herrett AR round now, which is the 30 Herret made from 6.8 SPC brass, to function in an AR15. Now that I had a good working set of dies, and about 500 .223 Rem/5.56 NATO cases resized to .300 AAC Blackout, next was to find what my Red X arms loved. The muzzle velocity is 1050 fps and the muzzle energy is 465 foot-pounds. Unfortunately, thats the one near impossible to find recently. Speer Gold dots have a flat base and the Speer data goes up to 20 grains. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. review of the Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 Blackout rifle, Bloomberg had this unkind thing to say about Colorado, New Study: Concealed-carry rates up, violent crime rates down. Sound speed is 1087 @ 32 degrees Fahrenheit . I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. Ballistically they are similar but the case dimensions are very different and load data cannot be reliably interchanged. 300 yards -19.77 -4.16 The .300 Blackout has become very popular in recent years, and this is due in part to the cartridge's high versatility. But the 300 AAC Blackout isnt supposed to compete directly with the AK. "Wait. is that a pickle in your pocket, or are you just happy to. oh never mind". They have a military-type boat tail design to really squeeze out the best ballistics from the round. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Lil Gun 17.5 2,198 1.74 Although this ammo is not manufactured in the U.S.A. but just south of the border, don't fret, Mexico knows what it's doing with guns and ammunition. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. 135 Grain Sierra MatchKing IMR 4227 18.3 2,075 N/A Recently when I wrote a review of the Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 Blackout rifle, I mentioned that Id be doing a drill down series on different aspects of the 300 AAC Blackout. Anyone have issues? by Boom12Bravo Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:04 am, Post Lbs,MAX Grains,MAX Velocity,Ft. Love tinkering with different bullets and powders. A couple of dozen projectile weights If youre not familiar with that, a minute of angle is just over one inch at 100 yards, so, for example, 1.5 MOA is just about a 1.5 inch group at 100 yards. check out the. All of my super loads are done with Lil'Gun. SAFETY DATA SHEET GET RELOADING DATA * You may also like . As you can see, you could spend the rest of your life testing different iterations within this caliber. You simply cannot find better 300 Blackout ammo for hunting. Its supposed to offer a .30 caliber alternative with more short barrel terminal performance than the .223 Remington round. 150 grain Fun with the 300 blackout. These are high-end hunting rounds that are designed to provide 1.8 times their diameter in expansion. I use 1680 for subs in 300bo, but i use a 220gr bullet. In the time that they have been in operation, they have adopted some of the most cutting-edge manufacturing techniques. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. I have one (more) opinion about firearms: they are like people = they too have their likes and dislikes. Well I feel like an idiot. Hornady of Nebraska is one of the best ammunition makers in the world. Start well above subsonic and work down to 1050 with a chronograph. He is a veteran, gun enthusiast, 3 gun competitor, and 2a advocate. I love little gun for my mag revolver loads and now I have all the stuff to load for my 300 I will be using it for that. 245 grain lead RNFP IMR 4227 8.8 1,033 N/A Bullet: 150-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Powder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun/17. Tactical. Always go with reputable manufacturers to avoid this problem. I tinker with 300blk., have shot several hundred rounds with various combinations of components. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. by cwlongshot Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:41 pm, Post He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Silly rabbits, rifle rounds are for rifles!!! FP Hard lead. So far, all the factory subsonic ammo Ive tried, with the exception of Cooper Cartridge 245 grain lead bullets, runs fine in this particular carbine length rifle. These rounds are designed to fire and cycle smoothly through suppressed modern sporting rifles. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. by BobinNC Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 pm, Post Even the loading process uses advanced technology for the highest precision. Mike has a passion for innovation and education across the industry to create great content, training, and insights from the best and brightest. 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